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Now we will.
If the American people vote for the no-plan team, they can’t say they weren’t
warned.
Transcript from video:
Congressman Paul
Ryan: Let's show Slide 8. I know you didn't necessarily want to see this
chart. The red is the status quo, that's the baseline we're on.
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner: You
could have taken it to 3,000 or 4,000...
Congressman Paul Ryan: Yeah, right.
We cut it off at the end of the century because the economy, according to the
CBO, shuts down in 2027 on this path.
Treasury
Secretary Tim Geithner: I like this chart; I looked at this chart
yesterday. You're talking about I think more than half a century. But if you
look at the gap between us—
Congressman Paul Ryan: I understand the gap.
Treasury
Secretary Tim Geithner: —between 10 and 20, it's a pretty small gap. In
that gap though—that 10 to 20 gap, which is all we're debating today—is a gap
where you’re achieving that slightly diminished path.
Congressman Paul Ryan: Here's the
point, if you'll allow me. This is your time, so we'll just take a long time.
Here's the point. Leaders are supposed to fix problems. We have a $99.4
trillion unfunded liability. Our government is making promises to Americans
that it has no way of accounting for. And so you're saying yeah, we're
stabilizing it but we're not fixing it in the long run. That means we're just
going to keep lying to people. We're going to keep all these empty promises
going.
So what we're saying is, in order to avert a
debt crisis—you're the Treasury Secretary, of all people—if we can't make good
on our bonds in the future, who is going to invest in our country? We do not
want to have a debt crisis. It comes down to confidence in trajectory. Do we
have confidence that we're going to get our fiscal situation under control and
prevent the debt from getting to these catastrophic levels?
If we go back to the preceding chart, Chart 13, you're showing that you have no
plan to get this debt under control. You're saying we'll stabilize it but then
it's going to shoot back up. So my argument is, that's Europe. That is bringing
is toward a European debt crisis because we're showing the world, the credit
market's future seniors—people who are organizing their lives around the
promises that are being made to them today—that we don’t have a plan to make
good on this.
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner: Mr.
Chairman, as I said, we're not disagreeing in that sense. I made it absolutely
clear that what our budget does is get our deficit down to a sustainable path
over the budget window.
Congressman Paul Ryan: And then it takes off.
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner: Let’s ask ourselves why they take off
again. Why do they do that?
Congressman Paul Ryan: Because we have
10,000 people retiring everyday and healthcare costs going up.
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